[lykos]

Whats up with all the first time or second time posters asking for patched DSDT files? Do any of them even try to do it or bother to read anything in here first. It looks bad. I get this nagging feeling about how bad I feel for AsereBLN being used like this. You know someone like White Dragon can come here and use all AsereBLNs hard work just to make money with his bullshit EFi-X dongle.

Is there a way we could tighten up the usage rights of members something like a time frame and move the DSDT files to a place for members that contribute some how weather it is money or just trying to help other members out to get them up and running.

Before anyone says anything I did make my own DSDT and it worked except for one thing. AsereBLN's DSDT already had the fix I needed so I used his and added my other patches like my Lan, video, speed stepping and most everything else on these forums that was suggested.

If this is no concern to AsereBLN then you can just delete the topic.

[Spike]

I can understand your sentiments, but I do not think that closing parts of this forum is what this is all about. Everything we see being developed here comes from numerous sources across the OSX86 community, closing this off and trying to make it “ours” is not the right approach. I also get angry about the thoughts of plagiarism, especially when someone tries to make money from such an act.

From what I have seen so far with this community we have risen above these type of people in an effort to make things better.

For the moment Asere has offered his services and for that we are grateful. If he is too overwhelmed then he simply has to say that enough is enough.

Regards

Spike

[lykos]

Those are good points too. I just dont like the cult of Dragon on that other site. Even the Mods bought into White Dragons wacko dictator cult. Though I do know most EFi-X users will wake up and come here for the truth. I take great displeasure knowing he is using other peoples work for monetary gain. If at all possible I would like to see him take a even bigger lose than he has already taken.

[elmangomez]

The thing I keep harking on is to contribute to Asere.... I did, and so should everyone who requests or uses any of his DSDT's. I am not sure of his financial situation, but show me someone who does not need money..... If anything, he can eventually upgrade his hardware or something... his hard work has to be recognized and rewarded.

[PoisonApple666]

I believe this all comes down to a matter of honor. And I am not, under any circumstances, intimating that I have any more than anyone else. I simply believe that in an open and basically free forum, people should treat others with dignity and respect. I don't believe ASEM has an open and free forum so I offer no respect to WD or his mods. If the mods get sucked in to his deal...well, after a certain point and after they have been presented with the evidence, it becomes their own lookout. We all know they cruise this place. And, let's face it...one of the major draws of this forum is that "All Are Welcome". I know what you are going to say about Mav, but look around there. Since his elevation to red letter sainthood, he has become a little more surly. Or maybe he's just getting fed up with all of the bullshit...who knows. His business...not mine.

For all of us here, I think that if a person solicits help from Asere for a patched file then they may very well owe him something for his time. Not a set fee, but perhaps what they can honestly afford to pay or what they truly believe the patched DSDT is worth. Time is, after all, money. Not my call, but with honor, each member can decide this for him or herself.

Maybe there is an alternative. Perhaps, paying Asere back by simply offering to help him patch up some of the simpler items for other people, like the video or audio, which will free up some of his time for his personal life or for R&D if he so chooses. I asked Asere to patch one for me. And I will probably wind up asking him again. I did donate to his fund when his situation, which we needn't dwell on, reached the proverbial boiling point.

I also donated a couple of bux to the forum. No big deal. When I ask Asere, again, for a patch, I believe I will owe him something. More than likely a donation. (My skills aren't really good enough to offer).

I just believe that if we all behave with a little honor and treat one another with a little dignity and respect then maybe Asere will continue to patch files for people. That is certainly up to him. I would just hate to see portions of this forum cut off to visitors or registered users, and I would hate to see Asere being imposed upon by the users or being taken for granted. And this forum is great with the help that everyone gives and gets. There is alot of mutual respect. You can see that in the posts. This forum is everything that ASEM is not. I would really like for it to stay that way.

[lykos]

I think most of us will stay around for a while. I just wish there was a way to make it so those that would try to gain money from it get nothing.
Thanks to many here I have a very nice working system. When I have more to spare money wise, I will help out. Sorry I am not working.
Yes most everyone here is nice and tries to be helpful and respectful to each other.
It is just a shame I know people are using this place for what it can give them without as much as a look around. Make some post. Try and be friendly. Don't look like your popping in just for a DSDT fix and out like a body snatcher in the dark. I know you guys see it. One maybe two post oh please fix my DSDT. It looks bad and gives me a bad vibe.

[afd_sg]

Mhh,

I agree with all these sentiments.

Firstly over a year ago now I purchased an Efix in the belief that it was a device that would change the onboard MB EFI and kid an OSX installer into believing that it was being loaded on Apple Hardware. Now I have been an Apple follower for years, I have a logical mind and really after Windows 98 I gave up on Microsoft not causeApple was better necessarily. But it was more logical and those on you who are longer in the tooth might remember Classic (or OS9), it was great fun, and now OSX I have to admit it is a lot better. I am not interested in the Microsoft versus Apple thing, as each to their own.

However i started of with a G4 and migrated over the years to G5, Imac, MacMini, and now MacPro 2009 2X4, in fact although I am by no means affluent, I appear to have a weakenss for the latest tech, and cannot get over that kid excitement thingy... But the purpose of saying this that over the years I have spent a small fortune with Apple, so when Efix came along I had no conscience regarding the Apple EULA thing... I was also disappointed that Apple did not produce a mid range pro, as I do not like all in ones.

I imagined a year ago that I might import the Efi-x into Singapore as there were no agents here, but to do so legally one has to get government approval, and of course "my wonder" device came back in four pieces with a note to advise that the company ASEM and the device was questionable. I asked the then Davide and Georg ( I doubt Wilhelm is more than a handle) refused to answer my mails. In the meantime I had sussed out that Efi-x was not what I imaged, although t is only lately that I discovered the extent of the ASEM rip off and scam.

The point in saying all this is that my Efix experience was short lived - not through it's own fault- and it was Lifehacker who finally persuaded me to go out and buy the bits and pieces that were known to work with OSX. I also felt very bad at the extent ASEM went to protect their shady enterprise by using some legal muscle to protect what is no more than an expensive scam.

I like this forum, it has helped me a great deal and Asere's guide was so easy to follow, I too contributed as it is only fair that one contributes as one cannot live on favours and alas people do tend to take advantage.... He deserved it....

I believe that if people do not want to be totally confused by the mountains of info out there, and/or are too lazy to do their own research then they should contribute, that is only fair. Furthermore if one must have OSX, then buy a MAC, they are not excessively expensive now as long as you dont add too many Apple additions.

Mike/Asere you have proven what can be done and those willing to experiment should contribute - energy is a two way...

My 10c worth.

Thanks too to all the regular contributers here, its a great forum for like minded people.

[Badger77]

Agreed - I have tried a few places as I was looking into getting my rig up and running.
This forum provided the best feedback and interaction. It is a smaller community that elsewhere but is extremely helpful.

Saying that peoples efforts should be recognised and we should try as much as we can to help others when we have the ability to do so.
I don't understand a lot of this stuff and do have to rely on installers, code help in posts and of course Aseres DSDT. Without that I would have struggled and I do try to give back where I can on the rare occasion. I dropped Asere a small amount also as how much is your time worth?. If it saved you a few hours then it's worth giving a small amount if you can.

Of course the greatest value we can give is a post or two in the forums with experiences and ideas / fixes to common problems.

[GeorgesBraque]

I concur with you guys. This "please do this for me" mentality gets old quickly. Although I've done my share of SPARC assembly programming during my university years (hardly related to this), I haven't touched anything code'ish in quite some time. I was able to create my own DSDT and apply a handful of code corrections just by following the guide here and on the InsanelyMac with little to no problems. Don't feed a man, teach him how to fish.